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Perspectoff: New section: Wiki looking good!

2008-05-24T22:42:04Z

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	I've used [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA] on a couple of wiki to great effect: stop the bots signing up for new accounts, stop the spam. --[[User:ChuckMcB\|ChuckMcB]] 13:33, 26 February 2008 (PST)		I've used [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA] on a couple of wiki to great effect: stop the bots signing up for new accounts, stop the spam. --[[User:ChuckMcB\|ChuckMcB]] 13:33, 26 February 2008 (PST)

			== Wiki looking good! ==

			Hey, the wiki is looking much better these days! Good job, guys.

			[[User:Perspectoff\|Perspectoff]] 15:42, 24 May 2008 (PDT)perspectoff

ChuckMcB: New section: Think it's time to add "Spam prevention" back into the To-Do list.

2008-02-26T21:33:13Z

New section: Think it's time to add "Spam prevention" back into the To-Do list.

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	I have been working on updating the documentation and updating the screenshots. There was all of this discussion, but it has been very quiet lately. I am planning on continuing to update the pages and continue to piece together a working [[User Manual]]. Is there a way that I can get the ability to delete some of the images that I uploaded? I pulled from the wrong directory and I would like to delete the older images as they do not match with the current design of either the orbiters or the LinuxMCE Admin Website. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 22:08, 2 November 2007 (MST)		I have been working on updating the documentation and updating the screenshots. There was all of this discussion, but it has been very quiet lately. I am planning on continuing to update the pages and continue to piece together a working [[User Manual]]. Is there a way that I can get the ability to delete some of the images that I uploaded? I pulled from the wrong directory and I would like to delete the older images as they do not match with the current design of either the orbiters or the LinuxMCE Admin Website. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 22:08, 2 November 2007 (MST)
	:You shouldn't need to delete, just use "Upload a new version of this file"		:You shouldn't need to delete, just use "Upload a new version of this file"

			== Think it's time to add "Spam prevention" back into the To-Do list. ==

			I've used [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA] on a couple of wiki to great effect: stop the bots signing up for new accounts, stop the spam. --[[User:ChuckMcB\|ChuckMcB]] 13:33, 26 February 2008 (PST)

Trout: /* Where are all of the Wiki Admins */

2007-11-26T13:50:19Z

Where are all of the Wiki Admins

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	= Where are all of the Wiki Admins =		= Where are all of the Wiki Admins =
	I have been working on updating the documentation and updating the screenshots. There was all of this discussion, but it has been very quiet lately. I am planning on continuing to update the pages and continue to piece together a working [[User Manual]]. Is there a way that I can get the ability to delete some of the images that I uploaded? I pulled from the wrong directory and I would like to delete the older images as they do not match with the current design of either the orbiters or the LinuxMCE Admin Website. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 22:08, 2 November 2007 (MST)		I have been working on updating the documentation and updating the screenshots. There was all of this discussion, but it has been very quiet lately. I am planning on continuing to update the pages and continue to piece together a working [[User Manual]]. Is there a way that I can get the ability to delete some of the images that I uploaded? I pulled from the wrong directory and I would like to delete the older images as they do not match with the current design of either the orbiters or the LinuxMCE Admin Website. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 22:08, 2 November 2007 (MST)
			:You shouldn't need to delete, just use "Upload a new version of this file"

Rwilson131: Where are the wiki admins

2007-11-03T05:08:17Z

Where are the wiki admins

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	: This is not going to be that simple. Take a look at [[Rip a CD/DVD to the Core]]. I have been working on reorganizing the User's Manual and most of the original pages from Pluto are formated in this manner. One would have to go through every single page and remove the programmer related information and move it to Trac. Certainly there are several pages that can simply be moved, but the vast majority of the Programmer related information co exists on user related information page as well.--[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 08:14, 20 October 2007 (MST)		: This is not going to be that simple. Take a look at [[Rip a CD/DVD to the Core]]. I have been working on reorganizing the User's Manual and most of the original pages from Pluto are formated in this manner. One would have to go through every single page and remove the programmer related information and move it to Trac. Certainly there are several pages that can simply be moved, but the vast majority of the Programmer related information co exists on user related information page as well.--[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 08:14, 20 October 2007 (MST)
			= Where are all of the Wiki Admins =
			I have been working on updating the documentation and updating the screenshots. There was all of this discussion, but it has been very quiet lately. I am planning on continuing to update the pages and continue to piece together a working [[User Manual]]. Is there a way that I can get the ability to delete some of the images that I uploaded? I pulled from the wrong directory and I would like to delete the older images as they do not match with the current design of either the orbiters or the LinuxMCE Admin Website. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 22:08, 2 November 2007 (MST)

Rwilson131: /* Separating development-related stuff into the Trac Wiki */

2007-10-20T15:14:01Z

Separating development-related stuff into the Trac Wiki

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	All,		All,
	I suggest to move all development-related pages and information from this wiki to the Trac environment danielk has set up. This would lead to a clear separation between a user wiki (with information on supported hardware, manuals, howtos and so on) and a development wiki (howto build, documentation of sources...). Any comments? --[[User:Chriss\|chriss]] 05:04, 20 October 2007 (MST)		I suggest to move all development-related pages and information from this wiki to the Trac environment danielk has set up. This would lead to a clear separation between a user wiki (with information on supported hardware, manuals, howtos and so on) and a development wiki (howto build, documentation of sources...). Any comments? --[[User:Chriss\|chriss]] 05:04, 20 October 2007 (MST)

			: This is not going to be that simple. Take a look at [[Rip a CD/DVD to the Core]]. I have been working on reorganizing the User's Manual and most of the original pages from Pluto are formated in this manner. One would have to go through every single page and remove the programmer related information and move it to Trac. Certainly there are several pages that can simply be moved, but the vast majority of the Programmer related information co exists on user related information page as well.--[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 08:14, 20 October 2007 (MST)

Chriss: /* Same old, same old */

2007-10-20T12:04:59Z

Same old, same old

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	::I have already engaged your arguments earlier but all you seem to want to do is rewording your opinions over and over again. If pointing that out is "flinging insults around" then maybe you should just leave the hardware category alone, it was doing just fine without your "help". And yes, it is getting a bit annoying to have to convince new people like you (who aparently have little else to contribute) not to keep taking things away, I for one would rather spend that time and effort adding usefull things instead. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:49, 9 October 2007 (MST)		::I have already engaged your arguments earlier but all you seem to want to do is rewording your opinions over and over again. If pointing that out is "flinging insults around" then maybe you should just leave the hardware category alone, it was doing just fine without your "help". And yes, it is getting a bit annoying to have to convince new people like you (who aparently have little else to contribute) not to keep taking things away, I for one would rather spend that time and effort adding usefull things instead. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:49, 9 October 2007 (MST)


			= Separating development-related stuff into the Trac Wiki =
			All,
			I suggest to move all development-related pages and information from this wiki to the Trac environment danielk has set up. This would lead to a clear separation between a user wiki (with information on supported hardware, manuals, howtos and so on) and a development wiki (howto build, documentation of sources...). Any comments? --[[User:Chriss\|chriss]] 05:04, 20 October 2007 (MST)

Zaerc: /* Same old, same old */

2007-10-09T22:49:44Z

Same old, same old

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	Excuse me but I have things to do besides filling talk pages with endless (not to mention pointless and utterly boring) discussion. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:24, 9 October 2007 (MST)		Excuse me but I have things to do besides filling talk pages with endless (not to mention pointless and utterly boring) discussion. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:24, 9 October 2007 (MST)


	:I'm not going to be [[Talk:Serial Hack\|goaded into a flame war]] no matter how rude you are. You are clearly incapable or unwilling to engage in a constructive way with other editors with whom you have a disagreement. If you "have better things to do" then I suggest you leave this talk page alone until you decided you actually want to engage with the arguments I have put forward. RWilson disagrees with me - do you see him flinging insults around? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:04, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:I'm not going to be [[Talk:Serial Hack\|goaded into a flame war]] no matter how rude you are. You are clearly incapable or unwilling to engage in a constructive way with other editors with whom you have a disagreement. If you "have better things to do" then I suggest you leave this talk page alone until you decided you actually want to engage with the arguments I have put forward. RWilson disagrees with me - do you see him flinging insults around? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:04, 9 October 2007 (MST)


			::I have already engaged your arguments earlier but all you seem to want to do is rewording your opinions over and over again. If pointing that out is "flinging insults around" then maybe you should just leave the hardware category alone, it was doing just fine without your "help". And yes, it is getting a bit annoying to have to convince new people like you (who aparently have little else to contribute) not to keep taking things away, I for one would rather spend that time and effort adding usefull things instead. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:49, 9 October 2007 (MST)

Zaerc: /* Comments */

2007-10-09T22:12:23Z

Comments

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	--[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 14:49, 8 October 2007 (MST)		--[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 14:49, 8 October 2007 (MST)

	:I still see no valid argument whatsoever to remove all the hardware from the hardware category, no matter how often you repeat your opinions. And "my requirement" is perfectly satisfied the way things are now. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:08, 8 October 2007 (MST)		I still see no valid argument whatsoever to remove all the hardware from the hardware category, no matter how often you repeat your opinions. And "my requirement" is perfectly satisfied the way things are now. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:08, 8 October 2007 (MST)

			'''''What the hell are you doing [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=LinuxMCE_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal&diff=next&oldid=6575 indenting my comments to be reactions to other comments???]''''' --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:12, 9 October 2007 (MST)

	::Yes, but ''mine isn't''. I am trying to propose a reasonable compromise where we can both achieve what we want. Please find below stuff from RWilson form my talk page. I will respond when I have time. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 17:03, 8 October 2007 (MST)		::Yes, but ''mine isn't''. I am trying to propose a reasonable compromise where we can both achieve what we want. Please find below stuff from RWilson form my talk page. I will respond when I have time. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 17:03, 8 October 2007 (MST)
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	:::This is worth noticing, cause I doubt someone will go through endless amount of pages to find there make/model of a tv in the articles listed under hardware category, it's much simple going like "hardware > tv > my model". --[[User:Samme\|Samme]] 00:09, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:::This is worth noticing, cause I doubt someone will go through endless amount of pages to find there make/model of a tv in the articles listed under hardware category, it's much simple going like "hardware > tv > my model". --[[User:Samme\|Samme]] 00:09, 9 October 2007 (MST)
	:::This is probably the most noteworthy reason for making this change I have seen. If an actually list solves this problem then I am for a List and taking Items out of the Hardware Section. If this does not fix this issue then leave them alone. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 09:07, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:::This is probably the most noteworthy reason for making this change I have seen. If an actually list solves this problem then I am for a List and taking Items out of the Hardware Section. If this does not fix this issue then leave them alone. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 09:07, 9 October 2007 (MST)


	Like I said before, I am not interested in acedemic grouping theory, nor am I interested in how other, totally unrelated wikis are organized (whether they use the same software or not). Please come up with a good reason why all the hardware should be removed from the hardware category, until then I feel there is little use in rehashing your opinions over and over and over again. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:46, 9 October 2007 (MST)		Like I said before, I am not interested in acedemic grouping theory, nor am I interested in how other, totally unrelated wikis are organized (whether they use the same software or not). Please come up with a good reason why all the hardware should be removed from the hardware category, until then I feel there is little use in rehashing your opinions over and over and over again. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:46, 9 October 2007 (MST)
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	:You're right, we do need to move on and I hope we can reach a decision - preferably a compromise if one can be found. This is something I feel strongly about but I'm honestly not trying to prolong this discussion needlessly. Thanks again for your thoughts :-) [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:13, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:You're right, we do need to move on and I hope we can reach a decision - preferably a compromise if one can be found. This is something I feel strongly about but I'm honestly not trying to prolong this discussion needlessly. Thanks again for your thoughts :-) [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:13, 9 October 2007 (MST)


			::I agree that we already have those things, neatly categorized, so can we now finaly please get back to adding ''our'' experience with the hardware ''we'' have? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:12, 9 October 2007 (MST)

	==Reasons why we shouldn't use lists as categories==		==Reasons why we shouldn't use lists as categories==

Lozzo: /* Comments */

2007-10-09T21:13:14Z

Comments

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	Personally, I think we need a list of Hardware that works and a list of hardware that does not. How all this is categorized is really semantics. I think that the the admins need to make a decision and go with it. Most of us will follow suit, as this does matter to us, and as admins you will have to figure out how to handle those that do not. I just need to know when I post next time, how you want it done. Let us move on. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 09:07, 9 October 2007 (MST)		Personally, I think we need a list of Hardware that works and a list of hardware that does not. How all this is categorized is really semantics. I think that the the admins need to make a decision and go with it. Most of us will follow suit, as this does matter to us, and as admins you will have to figure out how to handle those that do not. I just need to know when I post next time, how you want it done. Let us move on. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 09:07, 9 October 2007 (MST)

			:Thanks for your comments. I agree that we need lists of hardware that works and does not, and perhaps also a list of hardware broken down by type (TV card, X10 devices etc) so we can see it in one big list. I suppose the debate here is how we achieve this (with categories or lists).

			:You're right, we do need to move on and I hope we can reach a decision - preferably a compromise if one can be found. This is something I feel strongly about but I'm honestly not trying to prolong this discussion needlessly. Thanks again for your thoughts :-) [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:13, 9 October 2007 (MST)

	==Reasons why we shouldn't use lists as categories==		==Reasons why we shouldn't use lists as categories==

Lozzo: /* Same old, same old */

2007-10-09T21:04:21Z

Same old, same old

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	Excuse me but I have things to do besides filling talk pages with endless (not to mention pointless and utterly boring) discussion. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:24, 9 October 2007 (MST)		Excuse me but I have things to do besides filling talk pages with endless (not to mention pointless and utterly boring) discussion. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:24, 9 October 2007 (MST)

			:I'm not going to be [[Talk:Serial Hack\|goaded into a flame war]] no matter how rude you are. You are clearly incapable or unwilling to engage in a constructive way with other editors with whom you have a disagreement. If you "have better things to do" then I suggest you leave this talk page alone until you decided you actually want to engage with the arguments I have put forward. RWilson disagrees with me - do you see him flinging insults around? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:04, 9 October 2007 (MST)

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	Excuse me but I have things to do besides filling talk pages with endless (not to mention pointless and utterly boring) discussion. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:24, 9 October 2007 (MST)		Excuse me but I have things to do besides filling talk pages with endless (not to mention pointless and utterly boring) discussion. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:24, 9 October 2007 (MST)


	:I'm not going to be [[Talk:Serial Hack\|goaded into a flame war]] no matter how rude you are. You are clearly incapable or unwilling to engage in a constructive way with other editors with whom you have a disagreement. If you "have better things to do" then I suggest you leave this talk page alone until you decided you actually want to engage with the arguments I have put forward. RWilson disagrees with me - do you see him flinging insults around? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:04, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:I'm not going to be [[Talk:Serial Hack\|goaded into a flame war]] no matter how rude you are. You are clearly incapable or unwilling to engage in a constructive way with other editors with whom you have a disagreement. If you "have better things to do" then I suggest you leave this talk page alone until you decided you actually want to engage with the arguments I have put forward. RWilson disagrees with me - do you see him flinging insults around? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:04, 9 October 2007 (MST)


			::I have already engaged your arguments earlier but all you seem to want to do is rewording your opinions over and over again. If pointing that out is "flinging insults around" then maybe you should just leave the hardware category alone, it was doing just fine without your "help". And yes, it is getting a bit annoying to have to convince new people like you (who aparently have little else to contribute) not to keep taking things away, I for one would rather spend that time and effort adding usefull things instead. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:49, 9 October 2007 (MST)

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	--[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 14:49, 8 October 2007 (MST)		--[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 14:49, 8 October 2007 (MST)

	:I still see no valid argument whatsoever to remove all the hardware from the hardware category, no matter how often you repeat your opinions. And "my requirement" is perfectly satisfied the way things are now. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:08, 8 October 2007 (MST)		I still see no valid argument whatsoever to remove all the hardware from the hardware category, no matter how often you repeat your opinions. And "my requirement" is perfectly satisfied the way things are now. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:08, 8 October 2007 (MST)

			'''''What the hell are you doing [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=LinuxMCE_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal&diff=next&oldid=6575 indenting my comments to be reactions to other comments???]''''' --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:12, 9 October 2007 (MST)

	::Yes, but ''mine isn't''. I am trying to propose a reasonable compromise where we can both achieve what we want. Please find below stuff from RWilson form my talk page. I will respond when I have time. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 17:03, 8 October 2007 (MST)		::Yes, but ''mine isn't''. I am trying to propose a reasonable compromise where we can both achieve what we want. Please find below stuff from RWilson form my talk page. I will respond when I have time. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 17:03, 8 October 2007 (MST)
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	:::This is worth noticing, cause I doubt someone will go through endless amount of pages to find there make/model of a tv in the articles listed under hardware category, it's much simple going like "hardware > tv > my model". --[[User:Samme\|Samme]] 00:09, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:::This is worth noticing, cause I doubt someone will go through endless amount of pages to find there make/model of a tv in the articles listed under hardware category, it's much simple going like "hardware > tv > my model". --[[User:Samme\|Samme]] 00:09, 9 October 2007 (MST)
	:::This is probably the most noteworthy reason for making this change I have seen. If an actually list solves this problem then I am for a List and taking Items out of the Hardware Section. If this does not fix this issue then leave them alone. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 09:07, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:::This is probably the most noteworthy reason for making this change I have seen. If an actually list solves this problem then I am for a List and taking Items out of the Hardware Section. If this does not fix this issue then leave them alone. --[[User:Rwilson131\|Rwilson131]] 09:07, 9 October 2007 (MST)


	Like I said before, I am not interested in acedemic grouping theory, nor am I interested in how other, totally unrelated wikis are organized (whether they use the same software or not). Please come up with a good reason why all the hardware should be removed from the hardware category, until then I feel there is little use in rehashing your opinions over and over and over again. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:46, 9 October 2007 (MST)		Like I said before, I am not interested in acedemic grouping theory, nor am I interested in how other, totally unrelated wikis are organized (whether they use the same software or not). Please come up with a good reason why all the hardware should be removed from the hardware category, until then I feel there is little use in rehashing your opinions over and over and over again. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:46, 9 October 2007 (MST)
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	:You're right, we do need to move on and I hope we can reach a decision - preferably a compromise if one can be found. This is something I feel strongly about but I'm honestly not trying to prolong this discussion needlessly. Thanks again for your thoughts :-) [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:13, 9 October 2007 (MST)		:You're right, we do need to move on and I hope we can reach a decision - preferably a compromise if one can be found. This is something I feel strongly about but I'm honestly not trying to prolong this discussion needlessly. Thanks again for your thoughts :-) [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 14:13, 9 October 2007 (MST)


			::I agree that we already have those things, neatly categorized, so can we now finaly please get back to adding ''our'' experience with the hardware ''we'' have? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 15:12, 9 October 2007 (MST)

	==Reasons why we shouldn't use lists as categories==		==Reasons why we shouldn't use lists as categories==