Talk:Serial Hack - Revision history

AVJohn at 21:41, 19 October 2007

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	:Furthermore I feel that we can really do without this kind of misguided righteousness regardless of the intentions. Even with assuming good faith it seems pretty obvious that this kind of behavior is not appropriate, let alone a basis to lecture other people on how to edit the wiki. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:38, 3 October 2007 (MST)		:Furthermore I feel that we can really do without this kind of misguided righteousness regardless of the intentions. Even with assuming good faith it seems pretty obvious that this kind of behavior is not appropriate, let alone a basis to lecture other people on how to edit the wiki. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:38, 3 October 2007 (MST)

			== Better Solutions ==

			I merely put this page here as an aid to people who were having problems with USB->Serial devices listing incorrectly, and wanted someone better equipped in the ways of bash to come up with an autodetect script for them, or an alternative to using 'tree' as it is an additional dependency that I would like to see removed again.

			Also, no offence taken Chewi, I know this is a dirty hack, I needed to get this working for a client of mine, so it had to be done on the quick :P

			Anyway, does anyone have any ideas regarding this? --[[User:AVJohn\|AVJohn]]

Zaerc: /* Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page */ fixed a couple of my typos while I was at it

2007-10-03T23:38:19Z

Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page: fixed a couple of my typos while I was at it

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	:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)

	:Somehow you seem to think that there is kindness in your vandalism, and now you would like me to spell it out for you. Okay here we go, this is an [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5536#Comments addition], now this is vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5539#Comments count 1], [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5566#Comments count 2] and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5592#Comments count 3] leading up ~~your~~ the defacement of the page which seems also to be ~~concidered~~ vandalism, so that's [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5606 count 4] (I just wish you would stop being so "nice" to me). Then [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]] steps in to intermediate and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5833 restores] the page and there you go again, vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5838 count 5]. Sparking another debate on the talk page ''afterwards'' in which [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]], another contributor, somehow has to convince you again not to take things of the page for no good reason. And now you can't even stop vandalizing my comments on the talk page, or do I need to spell that out too?		:Somehow you seem to think that there is kindness in your vandalism, and now you would like me to spell it out for you. Okay here we go, this is an [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5536#Comments addition], now this is vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5539#Comments count 1], [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5566#Comments count 2] and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5592#Comments count 3] leading up to the defacement of the page which seems also to be considered vandalism, so that's [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5606 count 4] (I just wish you would stop being so "nice" to me). Then [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]] steps in to intermediate and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5833 restores] the page and there you go again, vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5838 count 5]. Sparking another debate on the talk page ''afterwards'' in which [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]], another contributor, somehow has to convince you again not to take things of the page for no good reason. And now you can't even stop vandalizing my comments on the talk page, or do I need to spell that out too?

	:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)
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	:And Trout, goading people [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&diff=5606&oldid=5605 like this] should be beneath you. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:06, 3 October 2007 (MST)		:And Trout, goading people [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&diff=5606&oldid=5605 like this] should be beneath you. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:06, 3 October 2007 (MST)


			:Sure no problem, as soon as the unreasonable vandalism of contributions and comments ("in good faith" or otherwise) stops. And just to point out the obvious, that rant adressed at me was never "in good faith", not even by the widest stretch of imagination. And allow me to quote from the link you gave: ''Bad faith editing can include deliberate disruption just to prove a point, playing games with policies, and vandalism.'' I think we've seen all of those symptoms right here.

			:Furthermore I feel that we can really do without this kind of misguided righteousness regardless of the intentions. Even with assuming good faith it seems pretty obvious that this kind of behavior is not appropriate, let alone a basis to lecture other people on how to edit the wiki. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:38, 3 October 2007 (MST)

Lozzo at 18:06, 3 October 2007

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	Zearc, could you please [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith assume good faith] and stop throwing around terms like vandalism? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:03, 3 October 2007 (MST)		Zearc, could you please [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith assume good faith] and stop throwing around terms like vandalism? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:03, 3 October 2007 (MST)

			:And Trout, goading people [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&diff=5606&oldid=5605 like this] should be beneath you. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:06, 3 October 2007 (MST)

Lozzo at 18:03, 3 October 2007

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	:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)

			Zearc, could you please [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith assume good faith] and stop throwing around terms like vandalism? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:03, 3 October 2007 (MST)

Zaerc: /* Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page */ maybe this clears things up a bit

2007-10-01T23:09:07Z

Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page: maybe this clears things up a bit

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	:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)

	::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)		::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)

	:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)

			:Somehow you seem to think that there is kindness in your vandalism, and now you would like me to spell it out for you. Okay here we go, this is an [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5536#Comments addition], now this is vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5539#Comments count 1], [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5566#Comments count 2] and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5592#Comments count 3] leading up your the defacement of the page which seems also to be concidered vandalism, so that's [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5606 count 4] (I just wish you would stop being so "nice" to me). Then [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]] steps in to intermediate and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5833 restores] the page and there you go again, vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5838 count 5]. Sparking another debate on the talk page ''afterwards'' in which [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]], another contributor, somehow has to convince you again not to take things of the page for no good reason. And now you can't even stop vandalizing my comments on the talk page, or do I need to spell that out too?

			:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)

Zaerc: /* Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page */ avoiding discussion brings no solution

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Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page: avoiding discussion brings no solution

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	:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)
	::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)		::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)

			:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)

Lozzo: /* Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page */

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Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page

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	:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)
			::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)

Zaerc: Yes I want debate instead of vandalism

2007-10-01T11:10:33Z

Yes I want debate instead of vandalism

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	You want debate? I have not '''vandalized''' anything. Yet you try to put false comments on the page to make yourself feel superior. The only thing that is clear is that you have a lot of growing up to do. There is no reason for this section on the discussion page or anywhere else, This is more of a discussion between you and me, that doesn't concern anyone else here. If you have a problem with me, I don't really care. I tried numerous times to be kind to you, to no avail. This is a wiki and the content will change whether you like it or not. When you contribute, it becomes the Wiki's text, and doesn't belong to you anymore. The same is true for me and everybody else... and yet you cannot grasp that simple concept. So I recommend that you either contribute in a wiki-community way or not at all. I have nothing against you and I wish you'd accept that your text will change and continue to contribute in spite of it. I'm done having a flame war with you, and I will remove this section of the discussion page soon. [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 18:30, 30 September 2007 (MST)		You want debate? I have not '''vandalized''' anything. Yet you try to put false comments on the page to make yourself feel superior. The only thing that is clear is that you have a lot of growing up to do. There is no reason for this section on the discussion page or anywhere else, This is more of a discussion between you and me, that doesn't concern anyone else here. If you have a problem with me, I don't really care. I tried numerous times to be kind to you, to no avail. This is a wiki and the content will change whether you like it or not. When you contribute, it becomes the Wiki's text, and doesn't belong to you anymore. The same is true for me and everybody else... and yet you cannot grasp that simple concept. So I recommend that you either contribute in a wiki-community way or not at all. I have nothing against you and I wish you'd accept that your text will change and continue to contribute in spite of it. I'm done having a flame war with you, and I will remove this section of the discussion page soon. [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 18:30, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)

Trout: /* Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page */

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Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page

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	And yet you continue to chose vandalism over debate by even removing comments here. Please stop it. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:31, 30 September 2007 (MST)		And yet you continue to chose vandalism over debate by even removing comments here. Please stop it. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:31, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			You want debate? I have not '''vandalized''' anything. Yet you try to put false comments on the page to make yourself feel superior. The only thing that is clear is that you have a lot of growing up to do. There is no reason for this section on the discussion page or anywhere else, This is more of a discussion between you and me, that doesn't concern anyone else here. If you have a problem with me, I don't really care. I tried numerous times to be kind to you, to no avail. This is a wiki and the content will change whether you like it or not. When you contribute, it becomes the Wiki's text, and doesn't belong to you anymore. The same is true for me and everybody else... and yet you cannot grasp that simple concept. So I recommend that you either contribute in a wiki-community way or not at all. I have nothing against you and I wish you'd accept that your text will change and continue to contribute in spite of it. I'm done having a flame war with you, and I will remove this section of the discussion page soon. [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 18:30, 30 September 2007 (MST)

Zaerc: I guess now comments aren't even allowed anymore, got any more "rules" I should know about?

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I guess now comments aren't even allowed anymore, got any more "rules" I should know about?

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	does this fix the "serial hack" ? [[Blocking Access To Serial Port]] [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 12:21, 28 September 2007 (MST)		does this fix the "serial hack" ? [[Blocking Access To Serial Port]] [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 12:21, 28 September 2007 (MST)

			== Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page ==

			Somebody cleaned up the mess you made and now you have to spit in his face by continuing to vandalize the page. Your arguments of percieved problems are insignificant and irrelevant. I don't think this is apropriate behavior for a "wiki admin". Please join in on the forum discussion if you feel this is so important. [http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=2593.15]. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:42, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			What specifically are you talking about? I think you are sadly confused. [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 10:03, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			:I think that becomes pretty clear in the discussion we are having on the forum. You can also check the page history if you have such a short memory. Meanwhile, please don't edit my comments either. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 12:11, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			And yet you continue to chose vandalism over debate by even removing comments here. Please stop it. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:31, 30 September 2007 (MST)

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	:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)

	:Somehow you seem to think that there is kindness in your vandalism, and now you would like me to spell it out for you. Okay here we go, this is an [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5536#Comments addition], now this is vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5539#Comments count 1], [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5566#Comments count 2] and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5592#Comments count 3] leading up ~~your~~ the defacement of the page which seems also to be ~~concidered~~ vandalism, so that's [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5606 count 4] (I just wish you would stop being so "nice" to me). Then [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]] steps in to intermediate and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5833 restores] the page and there you go again, vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5838 count 5]. Sparking another debate on the talk page ''afterwards'' in which [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]], another contributor, somehow has to convince you again not to take things of the page for no good reason. And now you can't even stop vandalizing my comments on the talk page, or do I need to spell that out too?		:Somehow you seem to think that there is kindness in your vandalism, and now you would like me to spell it out for you. Okay here we go, this is an [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5536#Comments addition], now this is vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5539#Comments count 1], [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5566#Comments count 2] and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5592#Comments count 3] leading up to the defacement of the page which seems also to be considered vandalism, so that's [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5606 count 4] (I just wish you would stop being so "nice" to me). Then [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]] steps in to intermediate and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5833 restores] the page and there you go again, vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5838 count 5]. Sparking another debate on the talk page ''afterwards'' in which [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]], another contributor, somehow has to convince you again not to take things of the page for no good reason. And now you can't even stop vandalizing my comments on the talk page, or do I need to spell that out too?

	:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)
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	:And Trout, goading people [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&diff=5606&oldid=5605 like this] should be beneath you. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:06, 3 October 2007 (MST)		:And Trout, goading people [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&diff=5606&oldid=5605 like this] should be beneath you. [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 11:06, 3 October 2007 (MST)


			:Sure no problem, as soon as the unreasonable vandalism of contributions and comments ("in good faith" or otherwise) stops. And just to point out the obvious, that rant adressed at me was never "in good faith", not even by the widest stretch of imagination. And allow me to quote from the link you gave: ''Bad faith editing can include deliberate disruption just to prove a point, playing games with policies, and vandalism.'' I think we've seen all of those symptoms right here.

			:Furthermore I feel that we can really do without this kind of misguided righteousness regardless of the intentions. Even with assuming good faith it seems pretty obvious that this kind of behavior is not appropriate, let alone a basis to lecture other people on how to edit the wiki. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:38, 3 October 2007 (MST)

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	:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)

	::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)		::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)

	:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)

			:Somehow you seem to think that there is kindness in your vandalism, and now you would like me to spell it out for you. Okay here we go, this is an [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5536#Comments addition], now this is vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5539#Comments count 1], [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5566#Comments count 2] and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5592#Comments count 3] leading up your the defacement of the page which seems also to be concidered vandalism, so that's [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5606 count 4] (I just wish you would stop being so "nice" to me). Then [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]] steps in to intermediate and [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5833 restores] the page and there you go again, vandalism [http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Serial_Hack&oldid=5838 count 5]. Sparking another debate on the talk page ''afterwards'' in which [[User:Chewi\|Chewi]], another contributor, somehow has to convince you again not to take things of the page for no good reason. And now you can't even stop vandalizing my comments on the talk page, or do I need to spell that out too?

			:Just to be clear, is this the kind of behavior that you mean by "contribute in a wiki-community way"? And why exactly can't we discuss this on the community forum? --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:09, 1 October 2007 (MST)

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	:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)		:Announcing your vandalism is not going to help either, so why don't you ''grow up'' and join the rest of the community in discussing this. That you don't care for anyone's opinion but your own needs no further pointing out. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:10, 1 October 2007 (MST)
	::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)		::Come on guys, I think we all need to turn the intensity down a notch or two on this one. This has obviously become quite personal. Perhaps the agrieved parties should take a breather from this article for a few days? [[User:Lozzo\|Lozzo]] 07:33, 1 October 2007 (MST)

			:::I think we already had a breather, with continued vandalism as the result. Please join the rest of the community in discussing these new policies on the forum or stop "enforcing" them. This wiki belongs to the community and not to a few (new) "wiki admins" to do as they please and then make up new policy as they go to justify that. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 08:57, 1 October 2007 (MST)

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	does this fix the "serial hack" ? [[Blocking Access To Serial Port]] [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 12:21, 28 September 2007 (MST)		does this fix the "serial hack" ? [[Blocking Access To Serial Port]] [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 12:21, 28 September 2007 (MST)

			== Trout: Please stop vandalizing this page ==

			Somebody cleaned up the mess you made and now you have to spit in his face by continuing to vandalize the page. Your arguments of percieved problems are insignificant and irrelevant. I don't think this is apropriate behavior for a "wiki admin". Please join in on the forum discussion if you feel this is so important. [http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=2593.15]. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 04:42, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			What specifically are you talking about? I think you are sadly confused. [[User:Trout\|Trout]] 10:03, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			:I think that becomes pretty clear in the discussion we are having on the forum. You can also check the page history if you have such a short memory. Meanwhile, please don't edit my comments either. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 12:11, 30 September 2007 (MST)

			And yet you continue to chose vandalism over debate by even removing comments here. Please stop it. --[[User:Zaerc\|Zaerc]] 16:31, 30 September 2007 (MST)