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I've created this page to make a proposal of how to setup the categories for the wiki. Feel free to add/edit/comment.
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*Computer Hardware
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**Motherboards
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**Graphic Cards
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**Sound Cards
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**TV-cards
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**Keyboards
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**Mice
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**Remotes
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**Bluetooth Devices
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**Laptops
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*PDAs and other Portable Devices except cell phones
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**Webpads
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*Software
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**Third party software
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*Audio Sources
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**Receivers
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*Video Sources
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**Set-top boxes
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***Satellite boxes
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***Cable boxes
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***Digital terrestrial boxes
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***PVR boxes
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**VCR
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**DVD
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**Blu-ray
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**HD-Dvd
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**Cameras
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**TV-cards (also in computer hardware)
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*Video Displays
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**LCD
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**Plasma
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**Projectors
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*Multimedia
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*Networking
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*Home Automation
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**Lighting
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**Climate
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**Security (Maybe this should be it's own main category?)
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*Telecom
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**Cellullar phones (Mobile phones?)
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**IP-phones
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**Phone-Providers (or less obvious "Phone-Lines" as in the pluto-admin)
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*Development
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==Suggestion==
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One thing I think is important is that articles must not appear once in a category and then again in a more general category. For example, Sony Amplifier should not appear once in 'audio hardware' and then again in 'hardware'. This is consistent with the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User%27s_Guide:_Using_Categories#Category_considerations guidelines for Wikimedia projects], which are very well thought through. [[User:Lozzo|Lozzo]] 13:33, 26 September 2007 (MST)
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:I think it's important for articles to be in as many relevant categories as possible, this helps to navigate and find similar pages much quicker.  Guidlines of other wikis don't apply here, just because some other unrelated wiki uses that organisation doesn't mean we have to.  So please don't remove Categories from pages, they are there for a reason. --[[User:Zaerc|Zaerc]] 04:51, 3 October 2007 (MST)
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::With respect, I completely disagree. Categories are there to facilitate an elegant taxonomy - not for things to be appearing twice. Having strict categories (i.e. without repetition and in the style used on wikipedia as the reslt of much community debate) makes things easier to maintain ''and'' to find. [[User:Lozzo|Lozzo]] 00:56, 7 October 2007 (MST)
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:::The problem is that this is not the wikipedia (or wikimedia).  And the resulting policy of much community debate there does not automaticly apply here.  Things are not either hardware or a phone or an orbitter, they can be all three at once.  Hence they should appear in all these relevant categories.  Likewise a NAS should go under storage and networking as well as hardware.  I think this makes them much easier to find and I really don't see how it could hinder maintenance --[[User:Zaerc|Zaerc]] 05:34, 7 October 2007 (MST)
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==Expanding the existing structure==
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It seems better to me, for the Hardware section at least, to take into account the existing structure, and expand on that.  Implementing the proposal above will scatter the existing pages and leave many categories empty.  As soon as certain categories become overcrowded they can be split into subcategories.  Therefore with a few adjustments we can mostly leave things the way they are and expand it where needed.  This should ease the pain of a transition as well.
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Below is an expanded and slightly modified version of the existing stucture, this should be a lot less intrusive, and yes some categories appear as sub-categories again, I see no problem with that. Categories for future expansion are in brackets, to be created when there are enough pages to justify (fill) them. --[[User:Zaerc|Zaerc]] 04:51, 3 October 2007 (MST)
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The above was moved here from the article for reference --[[User:Zaerc|Zaerc]] 07:57, 19 February 2008 (PST)
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I am concerned about one thing with regards to the follow categories and that is continuity of terms.   
 
I am concerned about one thing with regards to the follow categories and that is continuity of terms.   
 
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I think this looks real good. Thumbs up from me. --[[User:Samme|Samme]] 00:03, 28 September 2007 (MST)
 
I think this looks real good. Thumbs up from me. --[[User:Samme|Samme]] 00:03, 28 September 2007 (MST)
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::I also like it.  What's the status of this?  It seems pretty stale, with the last update to this "discussion" in 2007.  Anyone?  [[User:Seer|Seer]] 00:48, 1 April 2009 (CEST)

Latest revision as of 22:48, 31 March 2009

I've created this page to make a proposal of how to setup the categories for the wiki. Feel free to add/edit/comment.

  • Computer Hardware
    • Motherboards
    • Graphic Cards
    • Sound Cards
    • TV-cards
    • Keyboards
    • Mice
    • Remotes
    • Bluetooth Devices
    • Laptops
  • PDAs and other Portable Devices except cell phones
    • Webpads
  • Software
    • Third party software
  • Audio Sources
    • Receivers
  • Video Sources
    • Set-top boxes
      • Satellite boxes
      • Cable boxes
      • Digital terrestrial boxes
      • PVR boxes
    • VCR
    • DVD
    • Blu-ray
    • HD-Dvd
    • Cameras
    • TV-cards (also in computer hardware)
  • Video Displays
    • LCD
    • Plasma
    • Projectors
  • Multimedia
  • Networking
  • Home Automation
    • Lighting
    • Climate
    • Security (Maybe this should be it's own main category?)
  • Telecom
    • Cellullar phones (Mobile phones?)
    • IP-phones
    • Phone-Providers (or less obvious "Phone-Lines" as in the pluto-admin)
  • Development


Suggestion

One thing I think is important is that articles must not appear once in a category and then again in a more general category. For example, Sony Amplifier should not appear once in 'audio hardware' and then again in 'hardware'. This is consistent with the guidelines for Wikimedia projects, which are very well thought through. Lozzo 13:33, 26 September 2007 (MST)

I think it's important for articles to be in as many relevant categories as possible, this helps to navigate and find similar pages much quicker. Guidlines of other wikis don't apply here, just because some other unrelated wiki uses that organisation doesn't mean we have to. So please don't remove Categories from pages, they are there for a reason. --Zaerc 04:51, 3 October 2007 (MST)
With respect, I completely disagree. Categories are there to facilitate an elegant taxonomy - not for things to be appearing twice. Having strict categories (i.e. without repetition and in the style used on wikipedia as the reslt of much community debate) makes things easier to maintain and to find. Lozzo 00:56, 7 October 2007 (MST)
The problem is that this is not the wikipedia (or wikimedia). And the resulting policy of much community debate there does not automaticly apply here. Things are not either hardware or a phone or an orbitter, they can be all three at once. Hence they should appear in all these relevant categories. Likewise a NAS should go under storage and networking as well as hardware. I think this makes them much easier to find and I really don't see how it could hinder maintenance --Zaerc 05:34, 7 October 2007 (MST)

Expanding the existing structure

It seems better to me, for the Hardware section at least, to take into account the existing structure, and expand on that. Implementing the proposal above will scatter the existing pages and leave many categories empty. As soon as certain categories become overcrowded they can be split into subcategories. Therefore with a few adjustments we can mostly leave things the way they are and expand it where needed. This should ease the pain of a transition as well.

Below is an expanded and slightly modified version of the existing stucture, this should be a lot less intrusive, and yes some categories appear as sub-categories again, I see no problem with that. Categories for future expansion are in brackets, to be created when there are enough pages to justify (fill) them. --Zaerc 04:51, 3 October 2007 (MST)


The above was moved here from the article for reference --Zaerc 07:57, 19 February 2008 (PST)


I am concerned about one thing with regards to the follow categories and that is continuity of terms.

   * 1 Core
   * 2 Orbiters
   * 3 Media Directors
   * 4 Network Attached Storage
   * 5 Security
   * 6 Telecom
   * 7 Home Automation
   * 8 Multimedia
   * 9 Personal Computing

are the list of options one gets by selecting the read more button on the main page. This is the terminology that was used by Pluto, so the documentation is going to have references to these different aspects of the LinuxMCE software. My thoughts would be to work out from the above main categories, because not everyone is going to use the Home Automation, or the Security features built in. My example:

   * 1 Core
   * 2 Orbiters
   * 3 Media Directors
   * 4 Network Attached Storage
   * 5 Security
   * 6 Telecom
   * 7 Home Automation
   * 8 Multimedia
      *  Audio Sources
         o Recievers 
      * Video Sources
         o Set-top boxes
               + Satellite boxes
               + Cable boxes
               + Digital terrestrial boxes
               + PVR boxes 
         o VCR
         o DVD
         o Blu-ray
         o HD-Dvd
         o Cameras
         o TV-cards (also in computer hardware) 
      * Video Displays
         o LCD
         o Plasma
         o Projectors 
   * 9 Personal Computing

just my 2 cents worth.

I think this looks real good. Thumbs up from me. --Samme 00:03, 28 September 2007 (MST)

I also like it. What's the status of this? It seems pretty stale, with the last update to this "discussion" in 2007. Anyone? Seer 00:48, 1 April 2009 (CEST)