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=My Benchmark System Attempt=
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=Sample User Setup=
Note that I am in Canada and all prices are as paid before tax in CAD.
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I have moved my sample user setup to the wiki topic [[Alx9r's Sample Setup]].
In May 2008, I began building a LinuxMCE test system.  I wanted to see if I could replicate at least part of what I saw in the [[Video]]. The test system system will hopefully become my main working home theatre system. 
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AV gear-wise, I started with a completely clean slate here as I had nothing: No TV, no speakers, no receiver, no remotes -- a blank canvas. Nice. This is gonna be fun.  
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=Extensions I'd Like to See Added to this Wiki=
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*http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php for <ref></ref> style footnotes.
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*http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions as needed for navboxes described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Transwiki
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*A mainstream Common.css (I suggest just copying wikipedia's).
  
My criteria for the design of this system is as follows:
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=Stuff that ought to be in a "Newbie Portal"=
#Wherever possible use known-compatible and mainstream components.
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#Wherever possible follow recommendations from forums, reviews, [[Video]] and wiki.
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#Use components in the price/performance sweet spot.
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#Aesthetics should be living-room friendly.
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#Keep it simple, but still test the broad capabilities of LinuxMCE.
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I intend to document the design and results from this system as completely as I can.  That way, it can hopefully serve as a benchmark for others to replicate or at least learn from.
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*Pointer to FAQ
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*Hardware Selection
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**graphics chips that work
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**discrete codes, RS232 control
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**general considerations
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***esthetics
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***noise
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***slots
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***storage
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***com ports
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**some summary of what is currently being used and pointer to sample user setups
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*LinuxMCE Installation
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**What to Expect
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**Things to Contemplate Before the Installation
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***Network Topology
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***VDR vs Myth
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***Audio and Video Connections
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**Things you'll Probably Want to Have for the Install
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***a monitor to use during some low-level operations
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***another computer connected to the internet and the core
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***an ssh client
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***a keyboard and mouse, wireless is nice, synergy also works
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*Some Common But Non-Automatic Setup Steps
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**adding support for IR Remote
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**controlling RS232 AV Equipment
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*Organizing Media
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*Getting Help
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*Troubleshooting
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**How to find and view logs (ie. /var/log/pluto, tail -f)
  
===Hybrid Box===
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=Pages Under Construction=
I am starting with a hybrid topology to keep my costs down. If all goes well, this hybrid box will become my core server that lives in a closet, and I will go to a smaller dedicated media director in my living room.
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====Criteria====
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[[How to Select Mainboards for Your LinuxMCE System]] - A guide dedicated to making the most crucial hardware selection decision: Selecting a Mainboard.
In addition to the criteria I already mentioned, the design of my hybrid was also guided by the following:
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#Only components available through ncix.com, preferably in stock.
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#Tend toward components that lend themselves to eventual use as a dedicated core serving 2 or 3 media directors.
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====Bill of Materials====
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[[How to Select Components for Your LinuxMCE Computers]] - A guide to help you select all the other components that make up a good LinuxMCE computer.
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! Component !! Model !! each !! Notes
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| Motherboard
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| [[ASUS M2NPV-VM]]
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| $94.01
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| used in [[Video]], now out of production
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| breakout
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| ASUS [http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=111102044&vpn=SPDIF%2DOUT%2FOPT&manufacture=Asus SPDIF-OUT/OPT]
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| $9.02
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| SPDIF breakout board
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| breakout
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| ASUS [http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23285&vpn=14%2D000000094&manufacture=ASUS 9PIN Serial Port Header]
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| $6.60
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| two of these to breakout COM ports
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|-
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| CPU
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| AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ EE Dual Core Processor AM2 Windsor 2.4GHZ 512KBX2 65W 90NM
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| $80.92 
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| [[Video]] used 4400+, 4600+ is cheaper and maybe faster
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| heatsink
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| Scythe Mini Ninja Heatpipe Fanless Heatsink AM2
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| $38.98
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| should be good enough to cool w/o CPU fan
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| RAM
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| Kingston PC2-5300 512MB DDR2-667 CL5 240PIN DIMM
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| $16.70
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| 2 sticks
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| second ethernet adapter
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| ENCORE ENL832-TX-RENT
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| $8.68
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| based on [[Realtek_8139]]
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|-
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| TV Tuner
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| [[Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 MCE]]
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| $79.78
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| comes with [[Windows MCE Remote]]
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| HDD
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| Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB
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| $87.20
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| optical drive
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| Pioneer DVR-212D Black
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| $32.19
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| case
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| Silverstone Lascala LC17B
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| $129.99
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| HTPC form factor, big enough to accomodate conversion to core
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| power supply
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| OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W
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| $61.99
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| cheap, works, apparently quiet
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|}
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====Assembly====
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[[Hardware Selection Portal]]
''May 9, 2008'' - Only the SPDIF-OUT/OPT is still backordered.  The rest of the parts have all arrived.  The look of the Lascala case got a enthusiastic "Wow, it's pretty." from my fiancee.  I was quite impressed by its look too.  It should look right at home in the living room.
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I built the kit in about 3 1/2 hours.  It probably would have been quicker, but those hours were around midnight.  There was enough room for all the ports on the backpanel -- I'm using 7 of 8 slots in the case, and both PCI slots on the motherboard (2nd ethernet, tv tuner).  I was surprised at how good the optical drive looks in the case. The finished look is achieved by a piece of aluminum extrusion that is brushed and anodized to match the front panel that is double-face-taped to the drive tray.  I was expecting a struggle to get the door to align with the case well enough to look good, but it looks pretty nice on the first try.  Maybe I just got lucky.  Regardless, I'm happy with the front panel.
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[[How to Integrate Blu-ray Support into Your LinuxMCE System]]
  
There were only two things that I didn't like about this kit:
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[[How to Select Media Storage Hardware for Your LinuxMCE System]]
#The Scythe Mini Ninja Heatsink is so big that it obstructs access to much of the motherboard (put this guy in last).  The real problem is that one of the clips that hold the heat sink in place is adjacent the side of the case and underneath the heatsink.  This makes it a bit of a challenge to get the heat sink clipped in place.  The clips themselves don't provide nearly as positive retention as the stock AMD heatsink.  It does seem to be providing adequate cooling although I haven't stress tested this setup yet.
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#The ATX12V 4-pin socket is on the corner of the motherboard furthest from the power supply.  The supplied cable is barely long enough to reach, which eliminates the possibility of doing a nice routing job with that cable.
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====Hardware Testing====
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''May 10, 2008'' - Once the kit was assembled, I connected a mouse, keyboard, and an old Dell CRT via a VGA cable and pressed the power button.  Nothing happened.  I narrowed it down in a few minutes to the power button on the case.  I swapped the power and reset cables and it fired up when I pressed the reset button.  I'll investigate the DOA power button later.
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The system hung during POST complaining of a failed CPU fan.  I have no CPU fan, so it took a quick trip into the BIOS to disable that warning.
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I ran the Memtest 86+ tool on the stresslinux boot disk for 7 hours with no errors.  The "stress" option would not boot, so I haven't performed a processor stress test yet.  I also ran the Hitachi Drive Fitness Test from its own boot disk.  It also produced no errors.  So far so good.
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====BIOS Tweaks====
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I made the following adjustments to the BIOS:
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*Disable CPU Fan Speed Warning (as mentioned above)
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====LinuxMCE Install====
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''May 10, 2008'' - I download a torrent of the Linux MCE 0710RC1 AMD64 DVD .iso and burned it to a DVD.  I plugged the Realtek network card into my router, then I booted from install DVD and let the OS install.  This took about 25 minutes.  During that time it only prompted me to select the default password and the disk to install to, then at the end to remove the install DVD.
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One thing that I didn't expect was the install-time screensaver.  It basically just blanks the screen which cause my heart to sink as I thought something had gone wrong.  The mouse did nothing to bring it back, but pressing the shift key worked fine.  Whew.
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=====Hauppauge 150=====
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LinuxMCE did not detect the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 MCE automatically.  I followed the [[Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150 MCE#Manual Configuration|manual configuration directions]].
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====Overall Impressions====
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The Lascala case is very nice.  I'm sure there are even nicer-looking cases out there, but I picked mine up for only $130 so I am very happy with it.
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With the case open the case and power supply fans are definitely noticeable.  On the other hand, at about 4 feet they were quieter than my refrigerator at 20 feet.  I don't suspect this will be an issue, but the fans were louder than I was expecting from the various case and power supply reviews I had read.
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The other thing I liked was that the Silverstone Lascala case and M2NPV-VN motherboard seemed to be made for one another.  All of the frontpanel ports had a place to plug into on the motherboard, and there were just enough slots in the case to accomodate all of the breakout boards.  The CPU socket located perfectly so that the two quiet 80mm case fans draw air directly over the heat sink.
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I was happy to see room for 6 hard drives in the Lascala case.
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===TV===
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A 40" wall-mounted LCD seemed like the right thing for my condominium's living room.  The [[Video]] showed a Sharp Aquos LC-26D6U in the bedroom.  Sharp seems to have good RS-232 control support -- as long as the control port is actually there.
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I settled on the [[Sharp Aquos LCD]] LC42D64U because it met the following criteria:
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*Has RS-232 control.
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*Very close to the TV used in the [[Video]].
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*Countless positive reviews, only a few reported issues.
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*1080p
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*Got it for a decent price ($1499) and in my neighborhood.  No shipping, brokerage, or duty.
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===Orbiter===
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The Hauppauge card in my kit comes with a [[Windows MCE Remote]].  Hopefully it will do the trick.
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===Glue===
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Miscellaneous items I ended up needing to put this system together:
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*Wall Mount for Sharp Aquos LC42D64U
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Latest revision as of 21:38, 29 May 2009

Sample User Setup

I have moved my sample user setup to the wiki topic Alx9r's Sample Setup.

Extensions I'd Like to See Added to this Wiki

Stuff that ought to be in a "Newbie Portal"

  • Pointer to FAQ
  • Hardware Selection
    • graphics chips that work
    • discrete codes, RS232 control
    • general considerations
      • esthetics
      • noise
      • slots
      • storage
      • com ports
    • some summary of what is currently being used and pointer to sample user setups
  • LinuxMCE Installation
    • What to Expect
    • Things to Contemplate Before the Installation
      • Network Topology
      • VDR vs Myth
      • Audio and Video Connections
    • Things you'll Probably Want to Have for the Install
      • a monitor to use during some low-level operations
      • another computer connected to the internet and the core
      • an ssh client
      • a keyboard and mouse, wireless is nice, synergy also works
  • Some Common But Non-Automatic Setup Steps
    • adding support for IR Remote
    • controlling RS232 AV Equipment
  • Organizing Media
  • Getting Help
  • Troubleshooting
    • How to find and view logs (ie. /var/log/pluto, tail -f)

Pages Under Construction

How to Select Mainboards for Your LinuxMCE System - A guide dedicated to making the most crucial hardware selection decision: Selecting a Mainboard.

How to Select Components for Your LinuxMCE Computers - A guide to help you select all the other components that make up a good LinuxMCE computer.

Hardware Selection Portal

How to Integrate Blu-ray Support into Your LinuxMCE System

How to Select Media Storage Hardware for Your LinuxMCE System